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Results joint with 1PS experiment

We sum up experiment with service catalogs 1ps. I will remind, - in the end of June one of white projects (the blog on вордпресс), almost not moving ahead, has been accepted by administration 1ps for run under catalogs available in their base the tariff the VIP.

For cleanliness of experiment for all past tense I didn't undertake any actions concerning an experimental blog, except for those actions that were required on conditions (about what отписывался in comments to 1st part of experiment with 1ps), - i.e. the usual working moments like installation of a file with return references, its removals etc.

Let's construct the report by a dialogue principle where words of your obedient servant have a usual appearance, and words of the representative of service 1PS.RU are italicized. So, forward!

Results for the accounting period (23.06.2009-26.09.2009):

Banal technical complexity at definition of references to a site, got to Yandex index (to it ask to excuse for some delay) became the biggest problem which it was necessary to face at summarizing. Also has put here that is primary when experiment began if remember, Yandex "saw" 1986 external references from 1281 sites, - now, later 3 months, number of "visible" references not only haven't increased, and moreover, was reduced, a v-average, in 2,5 times!

References in Yandex

The primary goal was to solve the following problem: having on hand base from nearby 2000 addresses, to reveal, what of them have got to search base of Yandex...

And so, according to the panel of the web designer of Yandex, some sites containing pages with references to the investigated blog have got to an index (22 domains, - all different) from these addresses only.

Service comments 1PS.RU:

It is incorrect to try to estimate effect from registration by quantity of references, first, references appear gradually, secondly, search engines periodically clean the indexes.

Basically registration in catalogs is spent for influence on reference ranging - the name of your site registered in catalogs is a reference with keywords on your site. Coincidence of the text of references to words of search inquiry raises site positions in delivery. This factor frequently outweighs many other things influencing a place in search delivery. Этот фактор зачастую перевешивает многие другие, влияющие на место в поисковой выдаче.
Effect from registration is better to estimate not by quantity of the appeared references or growth тИЦ and PR, and by results of delivery of your site in search engines by the inquiries used at registration, and attendance by these inquiries.

At present in Yandex is 1073 pages referring to a site, from them of 90 % - catalogs of our base. It is possible to compare them with the total report under the demand.

For a correct estimation of results we used the same tool before registration and after – program Site-Auditor 1.68.

Test gaugings became before site run under catalogs 18.06.2009г. And after run of 9/3/2009, 9/26/2009 and 13.10.2009г.

Data Site-Auditor shows that the general indicators of a site have grown up:

Statistics on Site-Auditor from 1PS

Now we will look at statistics.

Statistics of a site in Yandex sickle:

That was on 6/18/2009:

Sickle in Yandex before run under catalogs 1psSickle in Yandex, a part 2

That became on 9/26/2009:

Yandex sickle in SeptemberYandex sickle in September, a part 2


Service comments 1PS.RU:

Once again we will remind, the registration purpose in catalogs – advancement by low-frequency and mid-frequency inquiries at the expense of references from catalogs with target ключевиками. From the offered list - only the part of inquiries was used in catalogs, therefore it is not absolutely correct to compare all these positions. Besides, the list of the inquiries estimated on 18.06.09, differ from the list on 9/26/2009, on these given to trace dynamics extremely inconveniently. Therefore we suggest to estimate positions by the inquiries used at registration. Кроме того, список запросов, оцениваемых на 18.06.09, отличаются от списка на 26.09.2009 г., по этим данным отследить динамику крайне затруднительно. Поэтому предлагаем оценивать позиции именно по запросам, использованным при регистрации.

In descriptions of a site for registration following keywords were used:

key-1ps

“It is found on the statistican" are words as they are shown in the statistican of Yandex. They have been approached to a kind of real inquiries of users - see a column "Corrected keywords".

By these words it is necessary to estimate site advancement in results of search delivery after registration in catalogs.

· Registration has been spent 26.06.2009г.

Apparently from the table, inquiries which have been used at site registration in catalogs, show positive dynamics whereas inquiries on which any actions it was not undertaken – remained on former positions in delivery:

keys


The full statistics on Google

According to Google: one reference has got to an index for all time from catalogs (knowing that Google shows not all references, it is possible to assume that is and still, but they if and is, of course, are in «an invisible zone») only.

Statistics of external references to a site in Google:

That was on 6/18/2009:

Position of a site in sickle Google in June


That became on 9/26/2009:

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The existing statistics of a site in sickle Google:

That was on 6/18/2009:

Position in sickle Google for June


That became on 9/26/2009:

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Service comments 1PS.RU:

Now we will look at the inquiries used at registration in catalogs. They show growth of positions and in Google.

The inquiries used at registration 6/18/2009 % 9/26/2009 % 10/13/2009
National recipes of beauty 7 29 % 6 50 % 3
Beauty and youth recipes 6 9 % There is no data There is no data 7
National recipes of beauty and youth 2 5 % 3 6 % 3
National recipes of health 8 5 % 10 3 % 12
National recipes of beauty and health 8 3 % 7 3 % 6
Beauty recipes 38 3 % There is no data There is no data 22


However only the part of the inquiries used in registration, has come into the view of the researcher. Therefore we have carried out the analysis of one more indicator – have estimated dynamics of transitions by inquiries which were used at registration in catalogs.

(On the basis of the statistics data liveinternet by the inquiries used at registration.)

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Well and to make general impression: as the attendance gain by these inquiries correlates with the general dynamics of attendance of a site (the data liveinternet):

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Conclusions:

As it would be desirable to receive any positive result, but, unfortunately, the obtained data discourage: "marking time", - беки is available practically that were at a site prior to the beginning of experiment, alas, "on-have flown", like autumn foliage, and expected new to them on change and haven't approached...

The site, a v-principle, has held the positions in a sickle as Yandex, and Google, on low-frequency positions on which, the v-core, and moved ahead, and here growth, apparently from screenshots, after run under catalogs, on-essence, and it was not fated to wait.

That else it would be desirable to note, - for some reason at a choice of categories for run under catalogs the number of the last has appeared painfully a little... That it is a defect of the manager who was making the project and carrying out the subsequent run or … - anyway «to interfere with process» to me it would not be desirable, for cleanliness of experiment in this case would be called into question.

Certainly, the run main destination under catalogs site advancement by low-frequency inquiries, but (it is possible, this trend of "time" at which value of the Runet-catalogs absolutely has depreciated in the opinion of ПС, and, probably, and a question of quantity and quality of base, and, maybe, «мышкующие» the web designer, perfectly informed that their references in two weeks will disappear sees...), I will repeat, BUT: references even if take place any catalogs, obstinately don't want to "climb" in an index... ссылки, даже если и размещаются какими-то каталогами, упрямо не хотят «лезть» в индекс...

Anyway, but nevertheless experiment has taken place also results, besides, whatever they were, are revealed and published.

Service comments 1PS.RU: are compelled to disagree with the author - it is impossible to name the received results "marking time". By the inquiries used at registration, steady positive dynamics in search delivery is observed and, the most important thing, a site has received additional visitors by the inquiries used at registration – after all the purpose of advancement it not positions in searchers, and visitors. По запросам, использованным при регистрации, наблюдается устойчивая положительная динамика в поисковой выдаче и, самое главное, сайт получил дополнительных посетителей по запросам, использованным при регистрации – ведь цель продвижения это не позиции в поисковиках, а посетители.

Taking an opportunity, we will remind users that registration in catalogs is one of methods of promotion of a site. To receive admiring results, combine it with other actions – including creation of a relevant content, optimization of a code of a site. Contextual advertizing is very effective for sales. Очень действенна для целей продаж контекстная реклама.

In summary we want to wish the author and readers of this blog of successes in advancement of sites and private life.

P.S. About headings – for simplification of life of users the number of headings (categories) in the site questionnaire is rather insignificant. The matter is that in a Runet many different subject authorities – more than 50, the number of headings in some is estimated in hundreds. At registration in catalogs experts choose the headings most precisely approaching a site. Дело в том, что в Рунете много разных рубрикаторов – более 50, число рубрик в некоторых исчисляется сотнями. При регистрации в каталогах специалисты выбирают рубрики, наиболее точно подходящие сайту.

P.P.S. On October, 15th to us 9 years are executed, we invite all to celebrate together with us!


Well and now allow to bring one more small resume: me, undoubtedly, the report prepared by service 1PS and, on a course of preparation of the given material has impressed, my opinion has a little changed...

Perhaps, the termination of this uneasy became the reason for that and, I will not hide, morally exhausting epopee (not all went smoothly on an experiment course, but, the v-general, it, probably, it is inevitable and and should be:-D), maybe, end of difficult work on one very serious SDL-PROJECT that has just dropped out these days (September-October I simply became "the enlightenment" reason did it, working as "father Karlo"), but, anyhow, our SE-experiment has taken place! There are results, there are reached results, let and not such considerable, but they are also it it is necessary to recognize.

By the way, I can result statistics of the fixed tendency of a gain of visitors on the examinee a site:

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Attendance tendency for last month

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The general attendance on months

Apparently from last schedule, the tendency of increase in number of visitors is present also the greatest delta it is necessary last month.

That else it is pleasant to note, so it is the fact of growth of reference weight (on Yandex):

backlinks-today

Look: by preparation of the report and, accordingly, gaugings (in the end of September) беклинков remains only 802, and now, after 2,5 weeks, them already 862 (an origin, I think, to you it is clear)... However, the phrase "At present is in Yandex of 1073 pages referring to a site, from them of 90 % - catalogs of our base", certainly, is far from a reality, but we will write off it on "error"... Правда, фраза "На данный момент в Яндексе находится 1073 страницы, ссылающихся на сайт, из них 90% - каталоги нашей базы", конечно же, далека от реальности, но спишем это на "погрешности"...

The V-general, our joint experiment on it can be finished, having put dots in the end... Why dots? - Because conclusions, first of all, to do to you, dear reader of these lines, and I would like to thank service administration 1PS.RU that have agreed on the given experiment, and for ненапрасно the done big work, and also to congratulate on an anniversary (day of summarizing of experiment has successfully dropped out) and to wish further positive work with web designers! - Потому, что выводы, прежде всего, делать Вам, уважаемый читатель этих строк, а мне же хотелось бы поблагодарить администрацию сервиса 1PS.RU за то, что согласились на данный эксперимент, и за ненапрасно проделанную большую работу, а также поздравить с юбилеем (удачно же выпал день подведения итогов эксперимента) и пожелать в дальнейшем позитивной работы с вебмастерами!



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  1. Instead of it is terrible at once +2000 бэков? At me after pair similar experiments was approximately so: Short-term (1-2 months) attendance growth. Then – loss from an index. Краткосрочный (1-2 месяца) рост посещаемости. Потом – выпадение из индекса.

  2. It agree c SEO the negotiator, such experiments are fraught with consequences in Yandex, especially after introduction АГС-17, as though the filter not to obtain on the shoulders.

  3. Anyway thanks for article that I suspected for a long time are very well stated in article.

  4. Has read your report and it was once again convinced that there is nothing better and more effectively manual advancement. Without use of "carpet bombardments».

  5. At me to steam of sites have been beaten АГС-17 just, probably, because of the massed growth беков.

  6. Oleg:

    How to check up a site on бан on АГС-17?

    The site was on 1 place in Yandex on опред. кейворду and suddenly was gone in general (anyway in 100 its first p. isn't present). And on another кейвордам remained on the same positions. Причем по другим кейвордам остался на тех же позициях.
    And in general: it is possible-whether бан яндекса on concrete ключевику?

  7. АГС17 Lives at you on a site if about 15 pages in an index remains. To the author of thanks for such experiment, only here it is a pity that I before it have not read. On October, 15th has ordered in them registration under the tariff "Elite". All descriptions did itself manually, only they banished under catalogs. A result: It is registered: 3973 It is rejected catalogs: 7598 Faulty catalogs: 114. After processing. As of October, 17th by me it is processed 1567. Half from them that the demand will be considered, and now all letters go the following maintenance: your reference is rejected by the moderator of the catalog «. And почитав your article I have understood that to sense from all it will be a little. And through how many it is better to take down references? 15 октября заказал у них регистрацию по тарифу «Элита». Все описания делал сам вручную, только они прогоняли по каталогам. Итог: Зарегистрировано: 3973 Отклонено каталогов: 7598 Неисправных каталогов: 114. После обработки. По состоянию на 17 октября мною обработано 1567. Половина из них о том, что заявка будет рассмотрена, а теперь все письма идут следующего содержания: Ваша ссылка отклонена модератором каталога «. А почитав Вашу статью я понял, что толку со всего этого будет мало. А через сколько лучше сносить ссылки?

  8. At me only ПР2 it has turned out through this service

  9. Vitaliy, not for пузомерок catalogs, and, first of all, for LF prorolling (and partly СЧ) inquiries are necessary.

  10. seoking:

    Thanks for a post, all to trifles are chewed. Last time 1PS.ru has given ten тиц to a site zero (there was it somewhere in the spring still).
    ИМХО: Щас in general has died 1ps, banished three sites for 60р. Has given only PR 1-2, and that, such PR at the expense of competent перелинковки pages it is possible to receive. To a campaign Yandex has completely finished off catalogs … Дал только PR 1-2 , да и то, такой PR за счет грамотной перелинковки страниц получить можно. Походу Яндекс полностью прикончил каталоги…

  11. Yandex all is more impudent and more malicious every year. Truth popularity from it at it all the same doesn't fall, and competitors worthy in Russia while aren't present.

  12. Yandex фуфль, it is bad доры хавает = (And here Google it кул.

  13. As was to be shown – run under catalogs has already no that value for a site what was earlier and doesn't justify expenses. Though СДЛ it is possible and to banish under catalogs, but only at Shakina – at it base good, instead of г as at 1PS

  14. For a long time already has understood that run никаково ефекта doesn't give

  15. As though searchers wouldn't take these experiments on arms

  16. For a long time it is known that catalogs give nothing.
    For experiment respect, visually all have shown!

  17. At me about the same result registration in catalogs manually gives. 15 catalogs where each site in the manual I banish also all are selected. All place the reference and pr 1-2 it turns out, and тиц as will carry – happens and to 10 rises. СДЛ only so I register. Все размещают ссылку и pr 1-2 получается, и тиц как повезет – бывает и до 10 поднимается. СДЛ только так регистрирую.

    But truth put experiment with registration 3 ГС the identical structure, one has banished manually, the second through a forum has ordered in the proracer for 10$ run, the third didn't touch at all.

    Result in a month:
    1st site in an index of 20-30 pages, after ags has taken off and slowly comes back.
    2nd site in an index 800 + pages, ags as though hasn't noticed
    3rd site in an index of 10 pages after ags has taken off for ever.

  18. Хреново long to wait to have, it will be faster better than references to buy. Especially that that they want for the tariff the VIP it that it is not necessary! They there stupid ваще ппц, низкочастотники even can't collect and the names generate till now. Is better сеопультом would use already there though титлы normal it is possible to pick up! Они там тупые ваще ппц, низкочастотники даже собрать не могут и названия свои до сих пор генерируют. Лучше бы сеопультом воспользовались уже там хоть титлы нормальные подобрать можно!

  19. nen:

    Run as well as in сапе needs to be distributed purchase of references on days then it will be similar to a natural increase instead of as they – for 10 minutes засрать all 999999 catalogs.

  20. Metr:

    Time of catalogs has passed. It is better to buy references. So there is a guarantee that the reference will get to an index. Так есть гарантия что ссылка попадет в индекс.

  21. I here by прочеса all sites through яндекс the web designer had while only 35 catalogs references with which are shown in яндекс the web designer.

  22. Children of thanks, fairly to admit have opened to me eyes on some things. Once again I will repeat thanks huge for very interesting, even the necessary material!

  23. trik:

    Проганял the projects on 1ps.ru, have got out only 50 бэков.
    I think all clearly.

  24. Runs under catalogs recently it is not so effective as earlier. Posts after runs there arrives a maximum on 50-100. When earlier for the same procedure it was possible to achieve increase on 200-500. Когда раньше за ту же самую процедуру можно было добиться увеличения на 200-500.

  25. Really, since the end of 2009 run under catalogs doesn't give almost any effect.

  26. Catalogs have died for a long time, but I so understand a post not about it, and that 1пс takes money for air.

  27. Oleg:

    Banished sites on base 1ps in the tariff of the PRO. As a result of ТИЦ hasn't risen:(, and PR on many sites has jumped with 0 to 2. Бэков was from 100 to 200. Бэков было от 100 до 200.

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